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Daily Gosho Passage - 05 July
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Jim Heckler
2005-07-04 23:11:10 UTC
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Nam – Myoho – Renge – Kyo

The Nirvana Sutra states: “Buddhism will prevail far into the future
because it is internally endowed with priests who are enlightened to
its most profound doctrines, while it is externally fortified by pure
members of faith who lend their protection.”

Letter to Soya Nyudo
Gosho, p. 790

Nam – Myoho – Renge – Kyo
Yelps
2005-07-05 00:18:02 UTC
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Where did you find this Quote Jim? It's certainly neither a honest Gosho
Quote, nor is the "quoted quote " from the Nirvana Sutra a correct quote.


I smell a Nikken Sect Quote. You've been duped. Now Buddhism is
"internally endowed with Priests"???? and this is said to be the Daishonin
quoting from the Nirvana Sutra????

Not only is that illiterate it is just stupid, taking liberties with the
Gosho to that extreme. Give me a break. Nirvana Sutra never even uses the
term "priests," or "member" or "members of faith"??????---FOR CRYING OUT
LOUD

Just Monks, Arhats or Bodhisattvas

This "internally endowed" (as in Musa Sanjin) is a term that applies to the
Eternal Buddha condition within life--not a pack of priests trying to
monopolize Buddhism and keep people under their "Holy" thumbs.

dc
Nam - Myoho - Renge - Kyo
The Nirvana Sutra states: "Buddhism will prevail far into the future
because it is internally endowed with priests who are enlightened to
its most profound doctrines, while it is externally fortified by pure
members of faith who lend their protection."
Letter to Soya Nyudo
Gosho, p. 790
Nam - Myoho - Renge - Kyo
rudikazooti
2005-07-05 04:58:38 UTC
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Hi Dhead - I'll let you fill in the blanks ie. Dopehead, dunce,dickhead etc.
Don't jump all over Jim. You've seen this quote a thousand times before, yes
even while you were a SGI leader. And if you had had real faith in that
organization you would have stuck with the SGI. Come down off that high wire
Dc - back down here on Earth with the rest of us Bodhisattvas of the Earth.
Make up your mind who you are going to practice with. The fall off your high
wire will be a long way down.
Post by Yelps
Where did you find this Quote Jim? It's certainly neither a honest Gosho
Quote, nor is the "quoted quote " from the Nirvana Sutra a correct quote.
I smell a Nikken Sect Quote. You've been duped. Now Buddhism is
"internally endowed with Priests"???? and this is said to be the Daishonin
quoting from the Nirvana Sutra????
Not only is that illiterate it is just stupid, taking liberties with the
Gosho to that extreme. Give me a break. Nirvana Sutra never even uses
the term "priests," or "member" or "members of faith"??????---FOR CRYING
OUT LOUD
Just Monks, Arhats or Bodhisattvas
This "internally endowed" (as in Musa Sanjin) is a term that applies to
the Eternal Buddha condition within life--not a pack of priests trying to
monopolize Buddhism and keep people under their "Holy" thumbs.
dc
Nam - Myoho - Renge - Kyo
The Nirvana Sutra states: "Buddhism will prevail far into the future
because it is internally endowed with priests who are enlightened to
its most profound doctrines, while it is externally fortified by pure
members of faith who lend their protection."
Letter to Soya Nyudo
Gosho, p. 790
Nam - Myoho - Renge - Kyo
Yelps
2005-07-05 18:15:46 UTC
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Post by rudikazooti
Hi Dhead - I'll let you fill in the blanks ie. Dopehead, dunce,dickhead
etc. Don't jump all over Jim. You've seen this quote a thousand times
before, yes even while you were a SGI leader. And if you had had real
faith in that organization you would have stuck with the SGI. Come down
off that high wire Dc - back down here on Earth with the rest of us
Bodhisattvas of the Earth. Make up your mind who you are going to practice
with. The fall off your high wire will be a long way down.
No I have never noticed this quote, although it may have been "quoted" by
Jim or the Priests, prior. It is a flagrantly false translation done as
explained by Reggie, by a Priest. It does not appear in any prior
translation nor is it in any way accurate as to the meaning or proper
translation. Whether it is a GOOD translation of Nikken's Gosho or just a
poor translation into english I do not know.


dc
Post by rudikazooti
Post by Yelps
Where did you find this Quote Jim? It's certainly neither a honest Gosho
Quote, nor is the "quoted quote " from the Nirvana Sutra a correct quote.
I smell a Nikken Sect Quote. You've been duped. Now Buddhism is
"internally endowed with Priests"???? and this is said to be the
Daishonin quoting from the Nirvana Sutra????
Not only is that illiterate it is just stupid, taking liberties with the
Gosho to that extreme. Give me a break. Nirvana Sutra never even uses
the term "priests," or "member" or "members of faith"??????---FOR
CRYING OUT LOUD
Just Monks, Arhats or Bodhisattvas
This "internally endowed" (as in Musa Sanjin) is a term that applies to
the Eternal Buddha condition within life--not a pack of priests trying to
monopolize Buddhism and keep people under their "Holy" thumbs.
dc
Nam - Myoho - Renge - Kyo
The Nirvana Sutra states: "Buddhism will prevail far into the future
because it is internally endowed with priests who are enlightened to
its most profound doctrines, while it is externally fortified by pure
members of faith who lend their protection."
Letter to Soya Nyudo
Gosho, p. 790
Nam - Myoho - Renge - Kyo
Cody
2005-07-05 13:00:22 UTC
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Post by Yelps
Where did you find this Quote Jim? It's certainly neither a honest Gosho
Quote, nor is the "quoted quote " from the Nirvana Sutra a correct quote.
You are obviously not an expert. Naturally, your CULT doesn't want this
translated but it has been and it Buddhism 101.

Snip uninformed drivel.
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rudikazooti
2005-07-05 15:06:37 UTC
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Now now. He claims to not be "with" the cult.
Post by Cody
Post by Yelps
Where did you find this Quote Jim? It's certainly neither a honest Gosho
Quote, nor is the "quoted quote " from the Nirvana Sutra a correct quote.
You are obviously not an expert. Naturally, your CULT doesn't want this
translated but it has been and it Buddhism 101.
Snip uninformed drivel.
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Yelps
2005-07-05 17:36:16 UTC
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Post by rudikazooti
Now now. He claims to not be "with" the cult.
Post by Cody
Post by Yelps
Where did you find this Quote Jim? It's certainly neither a honest
Gosho Quote, nor is the "quoted quote " from the Nirvana Sutra a
correct quote.
You are obviously not an expert. Naturally, your CULT doesn't want this
translated but it has been and it Buddhism 101.
Snip uninformed drivel.
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Cody
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This "gosho" quote is a complete mistranslation--altered in such a way as to
make fools of all of you.


dc
Cody
2005-07-05 17:40:45 UTC
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Post by Yelps
Post by rudikazooti
Now now. He claims to not be "with" the cult.
Post by Cody
Post by Yelps
Where did you find this Quote Jim? It's certainly neither a honest
Gosho Quote, nor is the "quoted quote " from the Nirvana Sutra a
correct quote.
You are obviously not an expert. Naturally, your CULT doesn't want this
translated but it has been and it Buddhism 101.
Snip uninformed drivel.
--
Cody
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This "gosho" quote is a complete mistranslation--altered in such a way as
to make fools of all of you.
dc
So sayeth the Great White Hope. Too bad he's, as usual, full of shit.
Buddhism 101 says that the priesthood protects the teachings whilst the
laity protects the priesthood. Notice that Shijo Kingo protected Nichiren
Daishonin, a priest, who, in turn, protected the teachings.

Oh, and I though you plonked Rudi and me. No self control?

LOL!
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Cody
2005-07-05 16:52:19 UTC
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My, if the Great White Hope doesn't agree to something, like Marc Strumpf
and Bruce Maltz, he cries out "fake!". Everyone act surprised.
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Post by Yelps
Where did you find this Quote Jim? It's certainly neither a honest Gosho
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